Moosehead

Two Guys and a Beer is a podcast hosted by long-time friends Andy Beckstrom and Shawn Field, where they discuss
randomness, sports, and the world around them. The two have been friends for over 20 years since their high school days
playing sports. As they can no longer play due to age-related ailments, they decided to start a podcast as their new hobby.
They are drinking Moosehead Lagger beer during the episode, talk about the history of the Moosehead beer. Then the conversation goes off into fantasy football, sports, and the almost banning of ketchup packets.... This is a show of TwoGuys drinking a beer having a conversation about whatever comes up. Naturally beer and sports are at the top of the list! But you never know what may come up!

Transcript

Speaker 1 00:00:11
And there we go with the, uh, pop of the top. That's the, uh, pop in the top on the, uh, very first episode here of, uh, two
Guys and a beer podcast. My name is Andy Backstrom. I joined as always, and I say, as always, 'cause episode one. So
<laugh> will be as always just my friend Sean Field here for the, uh, podcast trying to get things kicked off. So, uh, I'm glad
you could join us. And, uh, the, uh, episode will talk about some randomness, I'm sure, kind of what's going on in the world
and some sports stuff, and kind of dive into a few different things. But, uh, you know, right off the top, uh, we're going to
heard the, uh, pop top on the sound of the, uh, beer opening. But, uh, podcast two guys into beer. Now, you know the
names of the two guys. The Moosehead Beer is what we're gonna be, uh, having today. Moosehead Lagger, uh, will be our,
uh, our choice here. But, uh, before we get too deep down that trail, uh, Sean, uh, could do kind of an introduction here. Tell
us who we are and kinda what we're doing here, <laugh>, other than just talking to ourselves, <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:01:07
Well, I wanna thank everybody for listening. That tunes in. We appreciate it. You know, do the, like, subscribe, share on all
the social media platforms for us to help us out there. Uh, we're just a couple old guys now. We've been buddies for over 20
years. Played a lot of rec sports ever since we were 18, 19. We played high school sports. I came up with this idea to do a
podcast because, well, we're in our forties now. We need a new hobby, and we can't play sports much longer. My back
hurts, my knees hurts. Your back hurts. Your knees hurts. I mean, you're popping Advil. I'm putting Ben Gay on my knees.
Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, I'm taking, eating bananas, drinking these Rx Fit Aid drinks, all this goofy stuff. Bear
back and body. So I, not too long ago I was like, well, I gotta talk to Andy. We should start a podcast. We can't play sports
much longer. We need a new hobby. So podcasting. It is, and here we are for all of you.
Speaker 1 00:01:58
A lot less medication involved. <laugh>, you know, a lot less warming up for, uh, for something like this, <laugh>. Well, it's a
different type of medication. This is true.
Speaker 2 00:02:04
It's beer medication.
Speaker 1 00:02:05
This is true. You know, as long as, as long as no matter what we do, we just still come through, uh, loud and clear. So, well,
you know, it depends on how many moose heads we have. It might be less, uh, <laugh> <laugh> understandable. Later.
Speaker 2 00:02:15
What do you think of the beer, though?
Speaker 1 00:02:17
It's pretty good. Has you had it before? It's good. It's, uh, I don't think that I've had it before. No, I don't. I don't believe so.
It's, uh, it's definitely light. It's a lagger, fiercely independent product of Canada. Fiercely independent.
Speaker 2 00:02:30
Yep. Because it's still owned by the family that founded it.
Speaker 1 00:02:32
Oh, there we go. There's a lot of breweries that are still like, owned by local. Like, the Leinenkugel's is still owned by
whatever iteration of Leinen Leinenkugel it is now. Like Dick Leinenkugel and I don't know, there's like, I think there's like
six of 'em now or something that own it, but they've brew very little of their beer at their brewery. Right. Miller Brew. Exactly.
Yeah. Everything is at, you know, Miller Coors and their various locations and stuff. But yeah, I, I, you know, I don't, I mean, I
like it, you know, if they can keep everything in house, I mean, obviously there's a certain level of like, well, we don't have to
put all the, we, we created it and we, we'll just, you know, live off of that or whatever. But
Speaker 2 00:03:11
Yeah, it's, uh, owned by six generation, sixth generation Olands now two sons still won't help operate it, run it, manage it
continuing forward. Yeah. It's got quite the interesting history, that's for sure. So hopefully I can, you'll have to figure out a
way I can talk about it <laugh> without, you know, 'cause I don't want it to sound like I'm just going line by line by line.
Right. You know, it'd be nice to somehow bring it up and like a
Speaker 1 00:03:40
Actual conversation. Well, well, what's some of the stuff I, I guess about it, you know, like it's, you know, you said it's a sixth
generation. Easier for me to say. Easier for you to say. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:03:48
<laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:03:49
<laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:03:50
Yeah. It's a sixth generation o end family still owned the Oland family still owns the company. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> two of
'em. Still run it and work there. That's gonna be annoying. So I'll, I'll just breeze through these quick mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
And then when we actually start doing the real show, then you just, I'll just have to try to read off of you how to bring
something in, I suppose. Right. So basically, this beer company was founded in 1867. That was 156 years ago.
Speaker 1 00:04:18
Wow. <laugh>. So it's been around for a hot minute. It's been around
Speaker 2 00:04:21
A long time. And actually the country of Canada was founded in 1867.
Speaker 1 00:04:26
So it's almost older than the country that it's in. It's the same. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:04:30
So I thought that was interesting. It's the last major brewery in Canada that's still owned by Canadians. It's still
independently owned by the family.
Speaker 1 00:04:40
So like a Labat or Molson or whatever, or something
Speaker 2 00:04:44
Else. Owned by other non Canadians. Now, I
Speaker 1 00:04:47
Guess I didn't know that. I think maybe I thought that Molson was owned by whoever else, but I thought maybe like Labatts
was still whatever.
Speaker 2 00:04:53
I just looked this up myself. I thought road trip, you know, since we can spontaneous road trips, but it's a little far for a road
Speaker 1 00:05:00
Trip. <laugh>. It's not, it's not quite like randomly going to Chicago on a onto Saturday morning. No,
Speaker 2 00:05:04
It's just 1600 miles away on Right East coast of Canada in New Brun, St. John, new Brunswick. So it's 1600 miles from home
from here. So when it started, actually it was a female that started brewing the beer first. Her name was Susanna Oland. Um,
and she started brewing beer in her backyard and she shared it with her community that she lived in back then. Uh, and she
was brewing in October Brown Ale. Interesting. And that became popular ing Sounds
Speaker 1 00:05:32
Interesting.
Speaker 2 00:05:32
Yeah. And with her, in her community in 1867. So she and her husband and her kids decided to start Turtle Grove Brewery.
That's where it began.
Speaker 1 00:05:42
Okay. So it wasn't even Moosehead originally. It was Turtle Grove
Speaker 2 00:05:46
Was the name of, was
Speaker 1 00:05:46
What it was called. Yep. Okay. Well, we'll take the, uh, the two guys in a beer private jet out there. Is what? <laugh>, is that
part of the benefits package? Yeah, I, I
Speaker 2 00:05:55
Hope so. I hope so.
Speaker 1 00:05:57
<laugh>. So we'll do that in like 2064. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:06:01
We'll get on and just go. Yeah. Like Elvis, I feel like I'm gonna take my daughter to see snow land, see snow leave five
minutes later. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you learn that at Graceland when you're there. He did that once.
Speaker 1 00:06:12
Another thing I've not been to yet, it's really
Speaker 2 00:06:14
Cool. That
Speaker 1 00:06:14
One's a little closer than 1600 miles away, but
Speaker 2 00:06:17
<laugh> it is, it is about 10 hours, 10 12 hour drive, if I remember Sounds
Speaker 1 00:06:20
Right.
Speaker 2 00:06:21
In 1870. So three years after they found, started founding, founding, the brewery, Susanna's husband died unexpectedly. So
she went around and got support from investors to keep the brewery going. And because she got investors, she was no
longer the majority owner of it. And it was renamed to Army and Navy Brewery.
Speaker 1 00:06:41
Army and Navy Brewery. Is there like a background for that from the Army? Navy, like
Speaker 2 00:06:47
<laugh>? I couldn't
Speaker 1 00:06:47
Find any, really enjoyed the game or something. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:06:51
I couldn't find any information. Hmm. I suppose Interesting. Maybe some of the investors were part of the Canadian Army or
Navy. Right. Because it was on the East Coast, like I said, on a pier, which you'll learn about what happened later. Okay.
When I go through this. So in 1870, you know, when she, the husband died, she needed investors to keep Turtle grow
Brewery going. It was renamed Army and Navy Brewery. 'cause she no longer held the majority interest in ownership. In
1877, Susanna used money from an inheritance that she received to repurchase, controlling interest from the investors.
There go now, the o and family owned the brewery again. And then she renamed it s o n Son and Company. Hmm. Was the
name 1877.
Speaker 1 00:07:36
Interesting
Speaker 2 00:07:37
Of the brewery. I like it. About a year later then the main building and several other buildings attached to brewery were
gutted by fire. Of
Speaker 1 00:07:44
Course. That, that era. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:07:46
Pretty, pretty devastated. Yeah. And then, uh, she rebuilt the, a larger brewery on the same site in 1885. She passed away
and then the brewery passed along to the second generation. Her youngest son in particular is the one that took it over. His
name is George wc. George
Speaker 1 00:08:04
Wc.
Speaker 2 00:08:05
No clue what WC means. That's just what I
Speaker 1 00:08:08
Read. Right. I think I had a pen pal when I was in like second grade. That was wc. He's from Texas and no idea that's, I only
ever talked to him then, so I have no idea what it meant.
Speaker 2 00:08:15
<laugh>. Yeah, no clue. 1895 rolls around prohibition era started, caused a lot of problems with the brewery. So George
sold, sold it to a British syndicate who renamed it? Halifax Brewing. L t d. George and his brother John end up staying with
the comp Halifax Brewing and his managers. So they're still a part of it after they mm-hmm. <affirmative> sold it to this
British syndicate, whoever that may be. I don't know. Right. Sounds mischievous.
Speaker 1 00:08:45
It does. When anytime do you throw syndicate in there, it definitely adds a, it
Speaker 2 00:08:49
Sounds like gangs and Yeah. Stuff to me. Yeah. Uh, 1896, another fire leveled the buildings.
Speaker 1 00:08:56
There we go. Completely
Speaker 2 00:08:57
Level
Speaker 3 00:08:58
<laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:08:59
It's a good thing that we got a good fire service now we can <laugh> smoke detectors and everything. Right.
Speaker 2 00:09:04
It was rebuilt again, uh, in 1809. There was a dispute over compensation. You know how I said George originally stayed on
as a manager. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, he was mad about his compensation. So he ended the relationship with the British
syndicate or gang member, or whatever you wanna call
Speaker 3 00:09:22
It, <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:09:24
He decided he took his money. He went and purchased Hyland Spring Brewery in Halifax and renamed it Oland and Sun
Brewery. It's now all our backs in the family. So,
Speaker 1 00:09:33
So they, so they bought the same thing back. So they've bought the brewery back twice now <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:09:37
Pretty much. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:09:38
<laugh> for those. Keeping drunk at home. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:09:41
Right. Well, this is a different, this one's Highland Spring Brewery. Okay. The other one was Halifax. Oh,
Speaker 1 00:09:48
Halifax. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:09:49
Whatever it was. Yeah. Halifax Brewery. L T D and 1917 on December 6th. This is the interesting thing. So this brewery, like I
told you, was built on the east coast on the ocean. Right. On a pier or next to a pier. So 1917, on December 6th, there was a
French warship there at collided with a Belgian relief vessel in the Halifax Harbor. Both ships were on fire, they couldn't be
controlled, so they steamed their way into the pier, pushed
Speaker 1 00:10:18
It <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:10:19
While they were in the pier. The ships blew up,
Speaker 1 00:10:21
Of course
Speaker 2 00:10:22
Killing 2000 people. And it destroyed everything with an 800 meters from the shore <laugh>, which guess? Which was there.
The brewery? Brewery. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:10:32
<laugh> <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:10:33
So six people that actually worked at the brewery died in the explosion. And Savannah's son Conrad died in that explosion.
It's
Speaker 1 00:10:42
Been quite the, uh, epic ride for, you know. At what point did you're just like, you know what, maybe we should go into like
blacksmithing or something else, you know, and they'd say, <laugh> this clearly this is just not working real well. It's not
Speaker 2 00:10:55
Working for the Oland family. Right.
Speaker 1 00:10:58
<laugh>
Speaker 2 00:10:58
1918 rolls around. George WC uses the insurance money and apparently he received some sort of explosion compensation
to fund the purchase of a new brewery that was called Red Ball Brewery in St. John. George sent his oldest son to run the
Red Ball brewery while he stayed back at the pier with his youngest son Sidney, to rebuild what was destroyed in the
explosions. Now they own a brewery inland and they stayed back and rebuilt the one <laugh> on the coast.
Speaker 1 00:11:28
I like the explosion compensation too. That's a, yeah. I wonder
Speaker 2 00:11:31
Who paid that.
Speaker 1 00:11:32
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure, I guess it makes sense if the own, the two ships collide into the bit and whatever. But it's, you know,
kind of like a, an explosion. That's not a phrase you hear real often. Compensation
Speaker 3 00:11:42
<laugh>
Speaker 2 00:11:43
In 1928 rolls around the Oland business continues to grow. So they purchased another brewery. It was called the James
Ready Brewery. And while searching, searching old James Reddy company records, George B came across the name
Moose Head. Okay. So that's where the, the name Moose Head first appears is because they bought this other brewery and
they were going through records Okay. That inspired him to create the iconic moose head. It was originally a pale ale, not a
lagger. And this, and in 1928, it was the first time both the logo and the name appeared on beer. Okay. It was 1928.
Speaker 1 00:12:21
So it took a minute to get there. But, uh, and a lot of drama <laugh>, they,
Speaker 2 00:12:25
They got there a few fires, few explosions deaths in the family, and 1937 George B's son pw. Mm. Another
Speaker 1 00:12:34
It's all about initials. Another
Speaker 2 00:12:35
Initial there
Speaker 1 00:12:36
<laugh>. It's, you know,
Speaker 2 00:12:38
Apparently he was in going to brewing school all the way in the University of Birmingham in England. Well,
Speaker 1 00:12:43
Is that part of that syndicate as well? Is that <laugh>? It
Speaker 2 00:12:46
Probably was. There was
Speaker 1 00:12:47
Probably. That's how, that's how they get ya <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:12:51
So this was out in England. PW goes to school out there, he comes back. While he was out there, he discovered a taste for
laggers and not ales. Well of course their family was only brewing ales and stuff. So in an active rebellion, PW snuck his
new recipe into production while his father was out of the country creating the first Alpine lager. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,
which is still a line they sell if you go on their website or go up to a, okay. Um, I haven't seen it for sale or in Minnesota or
anything, but if you go to their website or Canada, they have Alpine laggers and stuff there.
Speaker 1 00:13:25
We'll have to get done when we travel to go check it out. That's right. Live in person to take our tour
Speaker 2 00:13:29
<laugh>. So that's kind of interesting. He, the reason lagger exists is 'cause he snuck it in when his dad was gone,
Speaker 1 00:13:35
Tricked him into it. <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:13:38
1947, Moosehead Breweries was born. I guess the Moosehead logo was becoming extremely popular. So the owner, George
b was recognizing that. So he finally renamed a brewery. Moosehead Brewery is limited. And that's kind of the first time the
Moosehead Brewery name attached to the company. And then in the seventies, fifth generation family owner Derek Olan, he
led the development a truly Canadian beer. The Moose said lager with the green bottle that you see the Majestic Moose icon
on there. And they, they had the first tagline, the moose is loose,
Speaker 1 00:14:11
The moose is loose. There you go. That was their advertising. Love it. The moose is loose <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:14:16
And in the seventies is the first time they sold beer internationally. And it came to the United States first. But Moosehead
came to the United States. And then today it's just sixth generation of Olands brothers, Andrew and Patrick. They're the
ones running the company and they work there. Their main focus today is on innovation of new brands and the
modernization of their facility.
Speaker 1 00:14:38
Okay. And trying to update, update it for fire code pretty much. So
Speaker 2 00:14:43
Maybe put up some ballistics glass.
Speaker 1 00:14:46
Exactly. <laugh>, they don't have explosive insurance this time. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:14:52
So that's kind of the facts. Anyways. So it's, I guess it's not as many as it seems to be, but, well,
Speaker 1 00:14:58
It's still, it's the quite the, uh, the history, especially the, uh, kind of the, it's almost a movie. You know, the uh, the winding
ways of how you get there. You know, they had to buy it back once, buy a different one to, you know, kind of like supplant
into that spot and Right. Have it destroyed multiple times. Like, like I said, at what point do you just give up <laugh>? You
just, this just isn't, it's a cursed project. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:15:20
Yeah. They didn't wanna give up with it. And it's a good thing too. And they have, you know, moose Head, Moosehead Light,
they have a beer called Canoe, which it sounds like something I want to try. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So when we take our
road trip 1600 miles to the East coast,
Speaker 1 00:15:34
That'll be the next one.
Speaker 2 00:15:35
We're gonna buy some crack canoe <laugh>. There
Speaker 1 00:15:37
We go. I like it.
Speaker 2 00:15:38
They do have a, a moose head small batch series. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, which they have, they have several breweries in
Canada, but they have a smaller one where they do, it's called the Small Batch series. And it's like blueberry, ginger
oatmeal, brown ale, espresso stouts, like raspberry wheat ale, like those mm-hmm. <affirmative> goofy or signature different
flavors, you know. Right. And then, uh, they still brew the alpine loggers. Okay. Um, like two flavors of that. And they do
have a James ready. Okay. Like two beers. A James Ready beer since they bought that. Right. Keep it going.
Speaker 1 00:16:11
Do you still do some ails though? They got tricked into the lockers.
Speaker 2 00:16:14
They still do ales. Yep. Gotcha. Can't, I can't find 'em around here. Right. All we can, all I have found in liquor stores and
stuff around here is mostly
Speaker 1 00:16:23
Just the, uh,
Speaker 2 00:16:24
Just the Green Moose head lawn, which is great beer. In fact, I told you before, you know, I rode around Lake Superior on
my motorcycle this year. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, well I, most of the time we're in Canada of course. And following Lake
Superior, a lot of those places didn't even have moose head. Oh wow. I was surprised. I asked for it. They're like, no, we
don't have that. We have a bat or whatever. Yeah. I'm like, well that's dumb. Right.
Speaker 1 00:16:45
Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:16:46
A couple of 'em had it, you know, so I, I got it. But yeah. Um, so that's kind of that. And the whole reason I even got turned
onto Moosehead beer is, you know, I'm building that bar in my basement. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Well I wanted a cool light.
Right. Uh, I didn't want Coors Light or, but like I want different Right. Absolutely. Different shit in my bar. Mm-hmm.
<affirmative> and I can only probably put up three or four lights, otherwise I'd be too jumbled, you know? Mm-hmm.
<affirmative>. So I was just flinging through eBay and I wanted, you still have one hanging in your bar. 'cause Of course I
was looking for signs when you were
Speaker 1 00:17:19
In there. <laugh>, whatever's their, is yours, feel free to take whatever <laugh> <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:17:24
That Miller High Life one on the pole. You know the ones that rotate. Oh,
Speaker 1 00:17:27
Yep. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:17:28
I specifically wanted a rotating sign. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:17:31
On
Speaker 2 00:17:31
My bar. Well, as I was flinging through eBay, guess what? I came across a moose head. A moose head,
Speaker 1 00:17:37
Love
Speaker 2 00:17:37
It. Sign with um, their logo on one side and a green moose on the other side. And it's got a metal moose on the top. And I
thought that is fricking sweet. Yeah. I've never seen one. I've barely even heard, heard of the beer moose head. Mm-hmm.
<affirmative> like, that's what I want to get. So he was, they're asking 800 for the sign. And I'm like, man, I guarantee you
hardly anybody has that. So I understood the price. Well I offered him 500 and he took it still ridiculous. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:18:04
I spent 500 <laugh> $500
Speaker 2 00:18:08
On this sign. But it is freaking cool man. And then when I got it, plugged it in, I'm like, man, this is sweet. Showing my wife,
she's like, oh yeah, cool. Great. You know, I'm like never had the beer before. I'm like, I better go try to find that beer.
Speaker 1 00:18:20
You can taste it. Give her a shot. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:18:23
So I bought, found some, bought it, and I realized it's actually a pretty good beer, so. Hmm.
Speaker 1 00:18:27
Nice. An introduction to Moose Head. Lagger as Told by Sean Field. Love it. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:18:34
Trademark,
Speaker 1 00:18:34
Union made.
Speaker 2 00:18:35
Union made. Yep.
Speaker 1 00:18:37
Huh.
Speaker 2 00:18:38
Independent. That's good stuff. Family owned for 156 years. Find
Speaker 1 00:18:42
It at the most local retailers. <laugh>, or at least a handful of them. I'm sure.
Speaker 2 00:18:46
It's crazy. Yeah. When I was on their website today, pulling some facts and some history and trying to do a little research.
They have a promotion going on right now that if you send them something you've built, they'll put your name on a can of
beer and send it to you. Hmm. I'm like, dude, there you go. Sign me up. Yeah. So I'm all like filling out my stuff. My name, my
address, email address, filling in the paragraph that they want you better. I'm like, built a podcast with my buddy. We're
talking about beer, you know, all this stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> wouldn't let me click the submit button. Oh. I'm like, oh,
okay. Scroll down, read the fine print Canadian residence only. Oh.
Speaker 1 00:19:24
Like really? Oh man. So we gotta do, we gotta do the kind of the uh, what is the, the Lordship thing where we buy like a
three by three plot of land in Canada. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:19:33
<laugh>. Right.
Speaker 1 00:19:35
I am my brother. Yeah. Right
Speaker 2 00:19:36
Up there. Yeah. So I'm like, dang, how cool would that be? Yeah. No, no. Handle your name on it. But
Speaker 1 00:19:42
Maybe we'll have to try to, we'll have to try to meet some Canadians or something. I go, sometimes I meet 'em on cruises if I
go on a cruise, you know, there's a lot of Canadians there. So I'll try to trick one of them into <laugh>. Yeah. Submitting
something and sending me my can <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:19:55
Yeah. So those are kind of the what I dug out of the beer anyways, so
Speaker 1 00:20:01
I like it. Well I think it'd probably be good to uh, just clip that up and just act, that'll be part of it, <laugh>. Sure. So see, there
you go. Didn't even need to ask anything. Just kind of went through it. Yeah. Moose head beer. What an introduction for
episode number one of the two guys in a beer podcast.
Speaker 2 00:20:19
Yeah. And it was a good beer. It's hard to describe the beer 'cause it's got like different tastes like most Canadian beer, but it
kind of walks that line between a bitter taste and a not bitter taste. You know, like it for a lager. There's still flavor there.
Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But it's not too much. Right. You know, like if you drink like a Miller Genian draft or a Coors or a Mic
mc, golden, those are laggers too, of course. But they don't, it's not a a ton of beer taste there. You know, they're Yeah. Of
light. Of like a light light.
Speaker 1 00:20:48
Yep. They're pretty, pretty light, pretty thin.
Speaker 2 00:20:50
Well, there's enough stuff in here that actually tastes mm-hmm. <affirmative> like a beer. There's got some Yeah.
Resemblance of flavor there. So I think that's why I like it.
Speaker 1 00:20:59
And laggers have, uh, you know, always kind of, they're generally a lighter beer anyway, just 'cause of the way that they're
made. But they've kind of gotten that, I don't wanna say a bad rap, but to your point that you have the Coors Light and the
Mick Gold and the Keystone Lights, you know, they're all laggers. You know, they're just because of it makes it that much
lighter. And then you're trying to get a thin beer that you can sell case upon case for. And so I think laggers have kind of
gotten that. Uh, it's a different process and almost more challenging process if you're brewing it itself. 'cause it's more
temperature controlled. But people don't do a lot of them. And so that's all you ever see is those super light ones. So Yeah.
You get something like this that people probably see, oh, it's a lagger. I don't Yeah, yeah. Whatever. But if you actually try it,
yeah. Like, like you said, it actually has some flavor, has some depth to it, actually has something going on. So
Speaker 2 00:21:44
Yeah, there's definitely something there. I did try to figure out the ingredients of it, but to no avail. Of course, <laugh>,
apparently they don't give out the ingredients to this beer. Right.
Speaker 1 00:21:54
I'm sure somewhere, someplace Brandon probably has access to that. He can probably do something. Right.
Speaker 2 00:21:59
But I'm sure most places don't tell you they're greedy and you like Kentucky Fried Chicken. Nobody knows the recipe for
their chicken. One of those,
Speaker 1 00:22:07
Trying to think of sort of deals, which one it was. If it was, I think it might be Coca-Cola, like they haven't patented the recipe
because then they would have to write it down and give it to somebody.
Speaker 2 00:22:19
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 00:22:20
Like, it's kind of like a, if we write it down and give it to the government or something, somebody could access that, whether
it be a clerk or something else. So they're like, Nope, it's locked in a vault. And if you figure it out, go ahead. But you're not
going to <laugh>. I think, I think it was Coca, it was somebody that, like it was one of those that, you know, a very specific
recipe, but they're like, if we patented then it's out there.
Speaker 2 00:22:43
And that's been around forever too. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> Coca-Cola, which is a great pop.
Speaker 1 00:22:48
Absolutely. Especially when you get it to McDonald's, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 00:22:51
Well, I know what it is actually. 'cause I researched that one point in time.
Speaker 1 00:22:54
<laugh>. There you go.
Speaker 2 00:22:56
So you wanna know the reason why McDonald's Coke is better out than everywhere else.
Speaker 1 00:23:01
It's not because they put cocaine in there. It's not, not yet. Not quite that. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:23:05
That's probably coming soon yet. Right. But it's because it's always cold from manufacture to being brought to a
McDonald's store. It's never warm. Okay. It's, it's kept cold in a refrigerator the whole time. They use stainless steel tubs for
it at McDonald's. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, not every place uses stainless steel containers and stuff for it. So that's what they
assume is why it tastes that way. Interesting. It's never warm, it's always cold. Like Coors Light is brewed cold. Same thing
with McDonald's, Coca-Cola. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So.
Speaker 1 00:23:33
Huh. Interesting.
Speaker 2 00:23:34
That's what I read anyways on the, the interweb. You know, everything on the interweb is so true. Exactly.
Speaker 1 00:23:40
I mean, you don't post, you're not allowed to post it if it's fake news. That's not, not something that's ation, it's not allowed.
No, I did, I did not know that. But that, that probably does make sense. I'm sure it's the little things like that that do make,
you know, just a little bit of a difference, you know? Yeah. So. Hmm. Interesting.
Speaker 2 00:23:55
And probably not much that much of a cost to the company either. Right. I mean, when you own your bar pop costs you
what, 3 cents a cup? Theoretically.
Speaker 1 00:24:03
It's something like that. It, it, it's
Speaker 2 00:24:05
Not a whole lot. Two 50 a cup, you know? Right.
Speaker 1 00:24:07
So what else is going on in the world Vikings or training camp Start Thursday in a couple days, whatever day it is. I don't
remember. But
Speaker 2 00:24:15
Yeah, it's gotta be coming up like, it's like a week. A week ago it said a week. Like I haven't paid a whole lot of attention to it.
Right. I've been kind of working on my fantasy team paying more attention to that than the Vikings. But
Speaker 1 00:24:27
I need to set my keepers in my fantasy league. I was just talking to our league manager I play baseball with and he's like,
yeah, I'm running three different leagues and it's too much. I don't wanna do it <laugh>. But I'm like, yeah, I need to set my
keepers because we're, we're doing a, it's a lot of our teammates, so a keeper's league over the couple of years, you can
save like three players or something like that. Sure. So at some point I need to go in there and actually figure that out. The
first year it was kind of wild and funny, you know, it was, as soon as we decided it was gonna be a keeper league and we
were gonna have year after year, the same people, almost immediately people are like, alright, I'll tell you what, I'll give you
two first rounders next year and a third rounder for whatever. And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. <laugh>. I get it.
But by the third year, those third rounders are gonna be like backup quarterbacks. <laugh>. Because the keepers are gonna
stay with certain, like the draft depth changes a lot with a keeper league. 'cause you just, there's less high end talent that's
there. It's, it sure can, it becomes almost more waiver wire, that type of stuff.
Speaker 2 00:25:24
Unless you're trying to rebuild a squad, draft picks do nothing for you. Yeah. You know, I'm in a dynasty league, so we keep
the whole team Okay. Year over year. And then draft picks do a little more for you because you have a rookie draft.
Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, well you're only drafting rookies. So it's trading my next year, let's say my next year's first, second,
third round for Justin Jefferson. Right. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think anybody except that trade, but that's kind
of the stuff that mm-hmm. <affirmative> that goes on a little bit more,
Speaker 1 00:25:50
I suppose. Yeah. That would make sense.
Speaker 2 00:25:52
Yeah. So it's been kind of fun doing that. You know, I haven't played fantasy football for a few years since I ended my, my
league a few years ago that I ran
Speaker 1 00:26:01
The one that I won in like 2007 or something. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:26:04
Probably. Yeah. I
Speaker 1 00:26:04
Think I still have the t-shirt somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:26:05
You probably do
Speaker 1 00:26:06
<laugh>. I, I would wear that around Jeff for sure. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:26:10
Yeah. I shut that down a few years ago and just wasn't fun anymore. And you know, when you play a fantasy football,
watching football isn't as fun 'cause you're too focused on the ticker on the bottom of the screen. Yeah. Or you're constantly
on your phone thumbing your phone. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like the old lady, you're just, eh, but not paying attention to
the game. But I got into it was asked to do Dynasty last year. I'm like, oh, I guess I'll play. And right now I'm kind of into it
and I easily had the best team last year. And fashionably I got blown out in the first round of the playoffs.
Speaker 1 00:26:40
There you go.
Speaker 2 00:26:40
Half of my starters scored six points or less. Was
Speaker 1 00:26:43
Was your team named the Vikings? Like <laugh> flying Moose? Cox. There you go. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:26:47
Like usual.
Speaker 1 00:26:47
Yep. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:26:48
<laugh>. So that really ticked me off. I'm like, really? I, I was 13 and three. I had, or 13 and two is what it was. Only lost twice
all year. I scored the most points in the league by like over 400 points. First round of playoffs come, I lay an egg and half of
my starters scored six points or less. Ugh. I'm like, this is some bullshit. Right. <laugh>, I was so
Speaker 1 00:27:11
Pissed. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 00:27:13
I was so mad. So I almost wasn't even gonna play this year. I'm like this, I just wanna watch football and not play fantasy.
But I'm like, well I better at least run it back. Yeah. You know, since I had such a good team and mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I
don't know if my team is gonna be as good this year. I got pretty lucky with some running backs, picking 'em on the waiver
wires and using them for two weeks and then dumping 'em and picking up somebody else. But we'll see what happens. I
guess A couple of the people I dropped this year were picked up by other people. So I was picking up rookies and stuff,
trying to plan for the future if I continue to play. My biggest draft pick was at Kincaid, a tight end from Buffalo Rookie.
Speaker 1 00:27:47
Okay. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:27:48
He's supposed to be like the next Kelsey. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So we'll see. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:27:52
He's got a good young quarterback working with him too. So gigs
Speaker 2 00:27:54
And could have a decent running game. We'll see how the Yeah. Cook does over there. Not Dalvin cook his brother. Right,
Speaker 1 00:28:02
Right. To James Cook.
Speaker 2 00:28:04
James Cook sounds right. Yeah. 'cause they dumped single
Speaker 1 00:28:06
Terry sounds like a pirate name really is what it sounds like. But you know, <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:28:10
Well they dumped single Terry, he signed with Houston and he was on my band. Well, I dumped him since he screwed me
last year. I was sick of that. Like bye <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:28:17
Yeah. Well, you know, along we're kind of on that, on that subject to a certain extent. Maybe get back into fantasy a little bit
more later. But, uh, from the grand scheme of thoughts from Saturn here, the, uh, running back controversy, oh, they're just
not getting paid and, you know, things like that and, and whatnot. What, what is your kind of just general take on either just
the state of it or what do they do? I have some ideas or some thoughts, but it's a tough spot to be, you know,
Speaker 2 00:28:46
<laugh>. I, I find it kinda hilarious, honestly. Like, I, I almost feel bad for 'em, but because they're pro athletes and they make
so much money, I don't feel bad for 'em. Generally, I feel like athletes are way overpaid nowadays, but I don't really know
what they should do. Football's a different game. You don't hand the ball off to your running back 30 times a game. They,
they, if you have got a starting running back and they get 12 rushing attempts a game mm-hmm. 15 attempts, like that's a
lot.
Speaker 1 00:29:13
Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:29:13
So they're, they're really not that vital to the game anymore. You know, they're more vital as a pass catching, running back
on the back field. Oh, absolutely. It's a passing league. Mm-hmm. It's no longer a running league. So I kind of think they
should quit whining and take a step back and look at how different the game is.
Speaker 1 00:29:28
Right.
Speaker 2 00:29:29
But on, on the same token, kind of in defense of them, they get beat up to fuck. Oh,
Speaker 1 00:29:36
Absolutely. You
Speaker 2 00:29:36
Know, they don't have a hot long shelf life. Like they're six, seven years and they're, they're starting to become less
effective, you know? Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 00:29:43
<affirmative>. So that's And high. Yeah. A high-end running back can still affect the game. It can still be like a vital part. You
know, you look at like a Christian McCaffrey kind of person, you know, but he's like you're saying outta the backfield, you
know, catching a little bit more, being able to run. That was even Devin Cook, you know, last couple years. Like that was
where he got some of his big plays was just screen pass something off, out on the edge, like make a move. But yeah, I, I, I
kind of agree with that, uh, sentiment, my, my kind of thought is they almost kind of need to just step back and reset their
own market in a way. You know, every, like they're, everybody's so worried about like the high end backs and they're not
gonna get paid and like, but they almost have to understand where they're at and what's happening.
Speaker 1 00:30:22
Like it is what it is. Go ahead and sign your massive contract for your second deal, but you're gonna only gonna play two of
those four years at best. And then you're gonna, that's fine. Take that money, get it whatever you can guaranteed, but then
go play for another team. You know what I mean? Guys that are like holding out and still trying to get, you know, I mean get
all that you can, don't get me wrong. Get all that you can. 'cause there's the money is out there somewhere, but like you
said, it's, it's a quarterback league, it's a receiving league, it's a passing league. There's a reason that, you know, in a way
guards are making they it some of that, I read recently that the franchise tag for a guard is more than a franchise tag for a
running back and for whatever reason, I mean obviously the cost of it, but uh, the franchise tag amount for a running back
has actually gone down over the last like year or two, which is insane to me.
Speaker 1 00:31:11
But yeah, it's still, it just says there's just not as much of a drop off. You know what I mean? You a great running back can
still affect the game, but it's not like if you lose one, I mean, how many times have we seen it for different teams that they
lose one and they bring in their, you know, fifth round rookie and yeah, maybe he doesn't get 110 yards a game. Maybe only
gets to like 1 0 7 and catches three touchdowns or something. You know, it's, they're still having an impact. They're still
being used. But I don't wanna say running backs are a dime a dozen. But you can find another running back and especially
with veterans, you can find a decent running back. You know, they may have a little bit more tread and may not quite be as
explosive, but again, you're not using that part of the game as much.
Speaker 2 00:31:51
Yeah. And that's, that's part of it too. There's not a lot of high level running backs in the N F L anymore. Which makes it
more interesting is why isn't the Brandon Jacobs like getting paid. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, he's a top three running back,
like he is a massive deal. You know, sequan barley, why isn't he getting paid? You know, you think those top couple would
Yeah. They're not even getting nothing. They're getting squat.
Speaker 1 00:32:12
Exactly.
Speaker 2 00:32:12
But you know, the game has changed, like you said, and the, you know, you use 2, 3, 4 running backs a game out of the
backfield to do different things. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's just not a pound and run up the mill Yeah. Deal anymore. It's all
about passing, you know, like the guards still not losing value. Well, because it's a passing league, quarterbacks are the
most expensive mm-hmm. <affirmative> piece you pay for. So you gotta protect them more than you protect the running
back. Yep. It's just, I don't know, man, it's just nuts. It's different. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:32:41
And it's, and it's tough too 'cause like even, you know, if you're a young kid, you're not even a young kid and like guess
maybe young to us <laugh>, but if you're, you know, you know, 17, 18, 19 years old, getting outta high school, going to
college, it's like, well I almost gotta fight for if I'm an elite level college running back fight for that. Right. To be able to leave
after one year. Right now you have to be two years and rightfully so. 'cause they just physically, they're not built up enough
to be, you know, you get pounded in the N F L but for a cer a certain amount, like that position is if you spend another year
as a d as a division one running back, you're almost taking N F L type hits. That's another year off of your career in a way.
Speaker 1 00:33:21
Like you're saying they get beat up and now you get to the N F L and if you're drafted in the first round, you got the fifth year
option. And so now you're six or seven years sort of with the division one into your career of a 10 year back. Right. The, the
shelf life, like you said is just, it's just not there, you know? And I could pay them or I could just draft another guy in the
third round, you know what I mean? Because there's, every year there's 20 running backs that come out. So it's, it's, and it,
so it makes it tough on the position 'cause there's just so many people that want to do it. But do you think that that, I guess
maybe I'll ask this question because there's so many that do it. Do you think that there will be this massive change where
running backs want to be more outta the backfield, more receiving oriented?
Speaker 1 00:34:05
Or do you think that we're gonna see maybe a trend where kids that are younger, like everybody wanted to be Barry
Sanders, everybody wanted to be Emmett Smith name, whatever, running back, you know what I mean? Everybody wanted
the ball. Like, I'm like, right, because that's what you did in high school. Nobody really throws the ball unless you're in like
Texas or California or something. But everybody wanted that position. Do you think that now there's gonna be maybe more
people that like, well if this is my long-term goal, there's no money at the end of that rainbow or a short career. Like I'm
going to, there's going to just be less running backs. You know what I mean? Do you think that like that pool, 'cause right
now it's a pretty deep pool of capable running backs, you think that just less people will wanna do it?
Speaker 2 00:34:43
No, I don't think so. I think it'll be about the same as it always was because the, the position of running back is, is getting
touches. Like the ball gets put into your hands. You know, you're not worried about somebody else putting the ball in your
hands like a quarterback throws it to receivers tight ends or running backs. You know, like all three of those positions vie
for touches of the ball. Running backs don't really have to do that. You know, once they get the ball and the ball is, there's
more opportunity to touch the ball as they're running back still. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, because if you do get 10,
12 rushes a game, you're still running outta the backfield getting four to six attempts, you know, receiving attempts, you
know, a pass is thrown at you. So I don't So you're
Speaker 1 00:35:22
Close to 20 touches a game out of these? I don't think it'll go 60. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:35:25
Yeah. I don't, I don't think it'll go down. Yeah. No, I don't think it'll go down much at all as far as that goes anyways. I don't
know. It's something to think about. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1 00:35:36
For sure. Yeah. And I, I, I mean I, it was more just spitballing, you know, I don't, I don't necessarily think that the running
back position is gonna die or anything like that because even just at a greater scale on the like high school and college
level, maybe less so college level, but especially the high school level, there's just that not that many guys that can play the
quarterback position at a high level. And so you're always gonna have a plethora of running backs. 'cause that's just what
you can do. You know what I mean? You every, everybody can run the ball. Everybody runs the ball. Of course, more often
than not you watch a high school game, your best running back is your quarterback because they just take the shotgun
snap and drag hand off and take off, you know, <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:36:13
Yeah. I think if anything it would change the position would be they would just hone in more on their receiving skills.
Mm-hmm. <affirmative> probably a little bit more and probably even their blocking skills. Right. You know, that wasn't never
a big thing 20 years ago because their job wasn't to block mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it was just to to pound run up the middle.
You know? So that might change a little bit. They'd probably be more worried about different skill sets at the same position.
Mm-hmm. <affirmative> probably, yeah. Would be my assumption. Mm-hmm. Did you see what Andy Reed said this week
about Derrick McKen? Mm-hmm. You, he is been in the league for seven years. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like four for
Minnesota, I think two for San Francisco and yeah.
Speaker 1 00:36:49
Two for couple maybe eight years. Yeah. Handful there. I think he had some injury years.
Speaker 2 00:36:54
He said he was a dinosaur.
Speaker 1 00:36:56
I mean, kind of <laugh> what he's, he's not, but
Speaker 2 00:36:58
He's been around with seven years, but he's barely been used. Right. Like all he has been is catching them all out of the
back. He's never started an entire season. You know, I'm like,
Speaker 1 00:37:07
Yeah. Even here he was behind Adrian and then played, I don't know if he, did he crossover with Delvin? I'm trying to
remember what year he left, but
Speaker 2 00:37:14
No, he left and then I think we drafted Delvin Cook Okay. That year. And then he was supposed to start in San Francisco.
He's supposed to be their main back. And then he got hurt, then he got hurt week one for off of the years. So I thought, how
the heck does this guy a dinosaur? Right? Like there's, he's got probably a handful of years left, you know, four or five
years mm-hmm. <affirmative>, even in Kansas City. All he does is catch the ball outta the backfield. Which
Speaker 1 00:37:35
Is, I mean, you can make a whole career out of, you know, if you have that ability. 'cause there's running backs. I think that
to your point, I think that's probably exactly right. What will happen is more focus on that out of the backfield. 'cause if you,
it's almost like a left-handed reliever. If you can catch the ball outta the backfield, you're gonna have a lot longer career than
guys that are just Adrian Peterson ground and pound. Just 'cause they become dinosaurs rapidly. They don't have that
burst step and teams aren't running the ball. And so it's, if you're running the ball 12 times and you get 24 yards, it's a two
yard carry, two yard average. But that's not explosive. You're not getting to big plays outta that. So
Speaker 2 00:38:10
Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:38:12
But yeah, left-handed relievers, my God, I wouldn't pay anything but the amount of money that I'd pay to just be, you know,
like be left-handed and <laugh> throw just like a 78 mile an hour curve ball or something. <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:38:24
Speaking of pitchers, now you're talking about that. So Joe Mauer just got entered into the Twins Hall of Fame. Mm-hmm.
<affirmative>. He is like, what, the 38th twins member? Oh
Speaker 1 00:38:33
Yeah. Whatever it
Speaker 2 00:38:34
Is. Yeah. He inducted into the twins h whatever the number is. It's in the thirties. I don't remember exactly, but they just so
happened the guy that struck him out, this one and only time in high school.
Speaker 1 00:38:43
Oh, yep. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:38:44
Walked up to the mountain <laugh>. Just had a surprise for Joe.
Speaker 1 00:38:48
That's
Speaker 2 00:38:48
Awesome. I was reading the article about it, and I guess Joe was knew, recognized him right away, and he was coming up
there and he leaned into his, leaned into his ear and asked him if he could, still could throw that nasty curve, because that's
what he struck him out on, was the curve ball <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:39:01
Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 00:39:02
He said it started out at the belt and would drop right to his shoes as it crossed the plate. That's one and only strike out in
high school. Right.
Speaker 1 00:39:09
I remember hearing stories about that. Like, he'd come back to the dugout and he didn't even realize it, you know, I mean,
he's like, oh, I've struck out before. And they're like, no, you really haven't <laugh>. It's like every, all of his teammates were
like, are you okay? Like, what's, what's what's happening right now? <laugh>. So
Speaker 2 00:39:23
Yeah, that was interesting. Hmm. I
Speaker 1 00:39:25
Mean, it's always fun when you bring something kind of, not really random, but I guess somewhat random, a blast from the
past. Like something like that back in there. Could have brought, uh, somebody from like the Florida state football squad
there, be like, you ready to fulfill your, uh, full ride scholarship now as a quarterback? <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:39:42
Chris Winkie <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:39:43
Exactly.
Speaker 2 00:39:43
28 years old.
Speaker 1 00:39:46
Hey, he still had a pretty decent, uh, N F L career out of that, you know, not right. It was nuts, but yeah,
Speaker 2 00:39:52
He did. All right. Not too often you get people that old mm-hmm. College sports that make it Yeah. To a professional. Well,
Dean Garrett.
Speaker 1 00:40:00
Absolutely. Yeah. Not a lot of 'em. But
Speaker 2 00:40:02
He was, what, 30 as a rookie in the N B a Fortune Bross or something. Yeah. Dean Garrett was
Speaker 1 00:40:07
Nuts. Yeah, he was, he was pretty solid. Yeah, he was, he wasn't amazing, but he was just a solid guy. Played
Speaker 2 00:40:13
The position. All right. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 00:40:14
<affirmative> some of those guys from that team. Like who was the, the other guy, was it Tom Hammond? The, he was kind
of more of a beefy guy in the middle. Like he wasn't thick, but he was more like, felt like a linebacker.
Speaker 2 00:40:25
Tom Hammond. Yeah. He's
Speaker 1 00:40:27
Like six two. But he could run you over,
Speaker 2 00:40:29
I think he played for Denver or something prior to the timber homes. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. When he came here, he
was a wildly old veteran at that point. Right? Oh
Speaker 1 00:40:36
Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:40:36
Absolutely. That's all we ever get is the, in the last two years of their career, you know? Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:40:40
Reclamation project. We we're gonna bring him back.
Speaker 2 00:40:45
Yeah. Come play at Minnesota. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Speaker 1 00:40:48
Well, I mean, that's why Dallas KO's here now. Give him a shot. He pitched well the other day though.
Speaker 2 00:40:53
Well, did you see what he did in the minor league? Yeah. He was like a 1.3 e r a, like seven nuts wins. Just nuts striking out
people left and right. And then he pitched in, pitched himself into a bunch of jams, but he pitched himself out of the jams
and we won the game. So, which is key. That was nice when he opted outta the contract when he was pitching so good. I'm
like, why aren't the twins calling this guy up? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> at least throw him in the bullpen or something. Give
Speaker 1 00:41:14
Him an opportunity. Wouldn't
Speaker 2 00:41:15
Do it. Wouldn't do it. And then they he opted out. Yeah. He is like, oh, deuces, I'm outta here. But then he's like, no, I'll still
play for the twins. Of course. Then they call 'em up and put 'em in and started. Right.
Speaker 1 00:41:26
Which, I mean, to a certain extent, I guess in, in his position, if you have 5, 6, 7 starts or whatever with the, you know, that
one point low e r a, like that, you know, in aaa you've now built yourself a little bit of a resume of I can still pitch at this level.
So you kind of bet on yourself in a way. Like, oh, I'm gonna opt out, I'll still play for you, but I also wanna play for one of the
other teams that are out here too. You know what I mean? Somebody's looking for a starter somewhere. Somewhere.
Speaker 2 00:41:51
Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:41:51
So I'm just looking to get to that level. And the twins were like, well, Joe Ryan must have something wrong with him, so
there's
Speaker 2 00:41:57
A lot wrong with him, <laugh>, but you know, when you pitch that good in the minor's, like why aren't you calling him up?
Right. A 1.3 e r a Yeah. Six wins. Like at, at some
Speaker 1 00:42:06
Point in time you need to
Speaker 2 00:42:07
Call 'em up. Exactly. You know, play. Yeah. I, I couldn't understand why they weren't calling him up, you know, it was, it was
weird. Like, what are they doing? I don't know. The twins piss me off. <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:42:18
Gets you fired up
Speaker 2 00:42:19
Minnesota sports, man, <laugh>, like, we're stuck in this flyover state. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I feel wrong if I don't root for
being a homer root for all these teams. Right. But I'm sick of rooting for all.
Speaker 1 00:42:29
Absolutely. It's
Speaker 2 00:42:29
So terrible, man.
Speaker 1 00:42:31
And it's hard to get, hard to get up for about anything. You know, like the wilder strapped to the, the two contracts that, I
mean, they had to, they had to do what they had to do. Don't get me wrong. I I, I agree with the decision and the fact that
they were able to win in as many games as they did last year was unreal to me with what they were working with. But it's
gonna be another two seasons of, well, we're, uh, working with, uh, we're basically short two elite level players just because
of the money. And it's just, that's the fact of what's going on. And you know, it sucks, but it's, you know, how do you get
excited for that, knowing that it's gonna be, it's like when I was, I was talking to my buddy Jason earlier today. We were
talking about concerts or whatever, and he's like, oh, are you getting a, a hotel? 'cause I bought Metallica tickets.
Speaker 2 00:43:13
Oh, I did too. And
Speaker 1 00:43:14
It, yeah, I went on sale. Yeah. It's like a Friday, Sunday bit. Well, exactly. He's like, you get a hotel. And I'm like, well, I mean
maybe, but it's next year. And he's like, oh, so it's not next week
Speaker 2 00:43:24
<laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:43:25
So it's kinda like getting excited for like, years down the road, you know what I mean? So it's, I don't know. It's, it's tough to
do that, you know? I'm still excited for the, while I love hockey. It's just absolutely one of my favorite sports. But it's still is
like something like that's like you're just basically screwed the Vikings going into this year. Like well they have the worst
defense in forever last year. And it's like, yeah, they got a new coordinator and they can do some stuff, but you know, it's a
little bit of turnover and it
Speaker 2 00:43:51
Can only go, can only get better though. It can't get much worse than last year.
Speaker 1 00:43:54
Yeah, exactly. There's a certain part of me that you could absolutely convince me that they're gonna be like eight and nine. I
don't think they'll be much worse than that. I don't, I think that they'll be still be pretty decent, pretty good. If nothing else,
the offense will carry 'em through to 500 records just
Speaker 2 00:44:08
Like last year. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:44:09
But you could make a fairly lucid, maybe drunk, but fairly lucid argument that they could be, I don't know about a Superbowl
contender, but like a legit contender because you do have cousins in the second year of the same system, which he's for
the
Speaker 2 00:44:25
First time ever. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:44:26
He's really never had that. You have some stability around the entire offensive line is back. So you got the stability there, the
receiving goal, really all you're changing is the running back. And Madison's been there, he just wasn't the starter. So he is
just gonna get more touches. You're not changing really much of anything. You have a ton of explosiveness there and now
another year with that same system. And if for whatever reason the defense gets from 32nd to like 20th, I know that's a
monumental leap <laugh>, but it's still on, you know, it's, it's still bottom half of the league. I'm not, I'm saying, I'm not
saying they're gonna jump to be like a top five defense, but if you get something out of them, like that's still
Speaker 2 00:45:03
Pretty significant.
Speaker 1 00:45:04
Now all of a sudden you have this offense that's absolutely just tearing the league apart last year. That now this year could
just destroy folk and a halfway legitimate defense. Again, I'm not trying to say they're going to the Super Bowl, I'm not
booking my tickets to Vegas, I'm not doing anything like that. But you could make a, why aren't
Speaker 2 00:45:23
You losing, are you booking your tickets to Vegas? Go there
Speaker 1 00:45:25
Regardless. I mean, yeah, I was gonna say, I might, but it might not be Vikings related. <laugh>, I'll go there for the Super
Bowl, but it will not involve them. Yeah. But yeah, you could make a, I could see a legit argument that there are other pieces
in place. There is the chance, you know what I mean? That things could progress on that. You know, it's, the defense is
really gonna be the, the kind of the X factor. Like they're not gonna, like I said, they're not gonna jump up to be a top five
defense. I don't think they got the pieces to be able to do that. I don't think that they mostly, I don't think that they have the
defensive line to be able to do that. That's kind of in my mind where it kind of starts and stops. But if they do jump from 32
to 22, I mean that's 10 spots. But that's, that's
Speaker 2 00:46:05
Still pretty significant. That's enough. That's the Giants in the playoffs
Speaker 1 00:46:08
Last year. Yeah. Instead of giving up 30 points a game, now you're giving 25 points a game or something like that. But if we
average 28 points a game scoring, now you're winning a bunch of those and you're not nailbiter games at the end, you
know? Right. That's, I think, more so, you just wanna be competitive. You wanna be in a game and give yourself a fighting
chance. And I don't think we did that a whole lot last
Speaker 2 00:46:27
Year. No, not really.
Speaker 1 00:46:28
Which is weird to say that as a 13 to three team <laugh>, we
Speaker 2 00:46:32
Had a lot of things go our way last year. A lot of things went right for a Minnesota team that you just don't typically see the
fumble at Buffalo. The
Speaker 1 00:46:41
Oh my
Speaker 2 00:46:41
God. Largest comeback in N F L history. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> against the Colts. Like just things that don't happen. Yeah.
For Minnesota teams usually we're on the receiving end of those things in the history books, you know?
Speaker 1 00:46:50
Exactly. When, uh, who was it? The backup quarterback just tears right down the field and then throws an interception in
the end zone, you know, to Patrick Peterson. I don't remember who, who it was off the top of my head now. But, you know,
just like something like that. Usually that ball's caught and it's a touchdown and we lose Right. Until like Carolina or
something dumb. Yeah. You know. So
Speaker 2 00:47:09
Going back to hockey, you know who else likes hockey?
Speaker 1 00:47:12
Who else likes hockey?
Speaker 2 00:47:13
Canadians.
Speaker 1 00:47:14
Canadians. Oh, Canadians love hockey. You
Speaker 2 00:47:15
Know what else? Canadians like beer head beer.
Speaker 1 00:47:18
Moose. Head beer. <laugh> brought it full circle. <laugh>. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:47:23
That's all I got with that. But hey, I'm just gonna switch things on here for a minute. This popped into my head a while ago.
Kind of political, kind of, not kind of about in saving the environment and going green. Well, I was reading this, you know,
I'm kind of into politics and world events and I try to avoid it. 'cause all it does is piss everybody off. Right. I don't care what
you are, where you're from, it's no good. This is
Speaker 1 00:47:45
Where Facebook and Twitter can get involved in our, uh, <laugh>. It's,
Speaker 2 00:47:48
It's ridiculous discussions, but I'm, I'm would imagine you didn't notice what New York had just passed last week. And their,
the state, their state government, New York. So they're all pretty left. They're about saving the environment, things like that.
Well, now if you go to a restaurant or if you go through a drive-through, they're not allowed to give you napkins, silverware,
ketchup packets, mayo packets or any of that stuff. Can you believe that?
Speaker 1 00:48:16
<laugh>? I mean, I, there there's, it
Speaker 2 00:48:19
Doesn't make any sense. You're gonna go through McDonald's and they're not gonna throw two ketchup packets in the
airbag in an effort. Right. To save the planet. And,
Speaker 1 00:48:28
And I get, I get, I get the idea of not just tossing everything in there from the get go. You know what I mean? But, but from
that point, like, if I go to like, Hardee's in Milaca, they'll ask me, do you want some ketchup packets? I'm like, no, I'm fine.
Yeah. I don't need any. And so they don't put it in there, so it's not really, it's not wasting anything. But at least I have the
option. But if they're saying that they can't at all, they, they especially like, 'cause I don't need, I don't need ketchup. I don't
need, I don't usually use it for my fries. I,
Speaker 2 00:48:52
I don't ketchup's so full of sugar and I'm getting fat, so Yeah. I don't like ketchup much either. Exactly.
Speaker 1 00:48:57
I drink enough beer to be able to make up for the ketchup. Who said
Speaker 2 00:48:59
Beer? There
Speaker 1 00:49:00
We go. I want some napkins. I don't need the 73 of 'em that Taco Bell will sometimes give me. Although I need the 73
sometimes.
Speaker 2 00:49:07
Yeah. They don't know how to wrap tacos too Well. Exactly.
Speaker 1 00:49:10
But at the same time, like, I don't necessarily need that many, you know, but like throw like two in there. I mean, I got the
glorious handlebars here, you know, so like I get, I get some stuff, believe it, it or not, good man, right in there and eating
half of it. But, uh, you know, I, I need a couple of napkins in there to be able to keep that kind
Speaker 2 00:49:25
Clean. You get new. Zero. I get
Speaker 1 00:49:27
Shirt
Speaker 2 00:49:27
Sleeve is what I get. You know how you get them? You have to request them. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Okay.
Understandable. But how does that make any sense in anybody's world? Right? Like, I just don't get it. So the wife and I
went to Punana a couple months ago. Cool. Place. Anybody listening out there? If you ever get a chance to go, go to
Punana. They're the friendliest people in the world. They're the happiest people in the world. Dominicans are awesome.
Speaker 1 00:49:49
I was gonna say, that's Dominican.
Speaker 2 00:49:50
Yeah. Great food. Cool place. Awesome place to go. They don't have plastic straws. Do you have any idea? Have you ever
used a paper straw? I have cruise. It is the stupidest thing. Cruise.
Speaker 1 00:50:01
Cruise thing. Cruise. Terrible. Cruises almost won. They won't give you a plastic straw anymore. It is a terrible saving. The
turtles they get in their nose. Yeah. <laugh>. The
Speaker 2 00:50:09
Turtles are fine,
Speaker 1 00:50:10
But I like, I'm fine not getting a plastic straw. But the paper straws are not the right, 'cause you leave it in a drink for more
than like three minutes. Yes. And now it's, you know, you're drinking, it's fallen
Speaker 2 00:50:19
Straws stronger and
Speaker 1 00:50:20
You can't use it. Yeah. You're drinking the straws. It's terrible. It's all just falling apart. I don't know what the answer is.
'cause you gotta find something, you know, cardboard or something like that, that still like
Speaker 2 00:50:27
Whatever. But don't straw and I'll just drink it. I don't usually use the lids and straws when I go out to eat anyways. Right. It's
just leave the thing away. But don't gimme a paper straw. Like literally we were getting so frustrated they would shove this
thing in our drink and two minutes later I'm like, this is ridiculous. Yeah. Like, this is gonna cause more trash out and about
'cause people are gonna be flinging 'em everywhere then. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> a plastic straw. So that got, that got me
thinking about the Punana trip when I read that article in New York, you know, all in the effort to save the planet. Like, I don't
understand, like the planet is fine. All this stuff is made from things from the planet. The planet is been through hurricanes,
volcanoes, icebergs, dinosaurs, meteors, tonic plate shifts.
Speaker 1 00:51:06
The, the planet's trying to kill us anyway, so it's fine. <laugh>, you know,
Speaker 2 00:51:10
Magnetic poles changing the planet is fine. If the planet doesn't want us here, the planet won't shake us off and we will all go
flying. Like the planet will still be here. It's been here for billions of years. Plastic bags, ketchup packets. Plastic straws are
not destroy the planet. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Now I say that, but I'm, I am, I think everybody should be a good steward of
the planet. I don't think we should just be chucking plastic bags everywhere and straws. Right. And ketchup packets and
stuff. Like be responsible with garbage. There needs
Speaker 1 00:51:39
To
Speaker 2 00:51:40
A
Speaker 1 00:51:40
Trash can. Yeah. Dispose of it properly.
Speaker 2 00:51:42
Try to recycle. But yeah, this reading, these articles just made me think like, we're gonna save the planet. No, we're not. The
planet will be just fine. All this crap is derived from the planet in the first place. So yeah. I just chap my butt hole when I read
that. I mean, you gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 1 00:51:59
It almost reminds me of, was it Minneapolis? I think it was Minneapolis passed a, uh, thing where, uh, no, there was, how did
they word it? You couldn't, I think you could maybe use like an existing building, but if you were building a new building,
you could not add a drive-through to it. Right?
Speaker 2 00:52:16
Yep. Because of
Speaker 1 00:52:17
Curb
Speaker 2 00:52:18
Emissions and cars
Speaker 1 00:52:18
Yeah. Greenhouse gas and stuff like that or whatever. Yeah, I remember that. Which to a certain extent, I, you know, like I, I,
okay, I get what you're trying to say, but people that are gonna do that are gonna order on the app park in the parking lot,
leave the car running and go inside and wait. It's Minnesota, it's cold af Maybe some people will, but more often than not,
especially, I mean, Minneapolis is its own different part of the world, but especially anywhere else in the rest of Minnesota.
Like, you go into any parking lot in the winter January, you go to Walgreens, it's 37 cars in the parking lot just sitting there
running, running.
Speaker 2 00:52:51
Yeah. Like, stuff is just, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 00:52:56
Yeah. You gotta do it on like a, a different level or something, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 00:53:00
It almost seems like it's, I don't know, they're trying to do too much stuff that just simply doesn't make any sense
whatsoever.
Speaker 1 00:53:07
Yeah. And it maybe it's an effort to try to eventually make the grant sweeping changes and like, well, if we kind of nickel and
dime it to here and there, people won't notice that we completely wipe everything off or something. Yeah. You know, I don't
know. I don't know what the, uh, I'm, I don't play at that level. I, I play just small town ball <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:53:25
Yeah. What's interesting, you know, that this whole Ukraine war, Russia, all this stuff over there, I don't know if you watched
the news a couple months ago, but the pipeline got blew up. Nord Stream pipeline underground. It was Russia's pipeline to
Germany and France to supply natural gas. Well, all the evidence suggests the United States, the ones that blew it up, well,
that released more gas in the air than all the pollution in the world combined in five years. Nobody cares about that. Right.
But we're carrying about ketchup packets, plastic, but do
Speaker 1 00:53:55
You know plastic, plastic straws? Do you know how much cows fart?
Speaker 2 00:53:57
A lot <laugh>. That's why they wanna regulate
Speaker 1 00:54:00
Cow farts and put
Speaker 2 00:54:01
Filters on their butts, you know? Yep. A o c.
Speaker 1 00:54:03
Yep. That's, uh,
Speaker 2 00:54:04
California people. That's
Speaker 1 00:54:05
What's happening.
Speaker 2 00:54:07
I, it's just crazy. Like, I don't know, how have we gotten so far goofy with some of this stuff? You know, like the far left is
getting goofy. Goofy. The far right. They're a bunch of goofy tars too. Like, there's no common sense of anything, of any
kind. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I guess is weird.
Speaker 1 00:54:23
Yeah. It's, uh, everybody's got a microphone and everybody, oddly enough, we have microphones too, <laugh>. Oh, we do.
But, uh, everybody's got a microphone, so everybody's gotta make their, uh, their presence felt. And sometimes it's not only
that, but uh, the more edgy or the more controversial or whatever, the more clicks or the more attention that it'll get. And so
you gotta be that extra level, you know, that next level as long as you can.
Speaker 2 00:54:49
Pretty much like that. What was her name? Greta Thunberg or whatever.
Speaker 1 00:54:54
Oh, yep. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:54:55
13 year old talent trying to tell world governments that were polluting too much. Yeah. And they built a statue of her. Right.
Okay.
Speaker 1 00:55:02
<laugh>. Right. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:55:04
What I find interesting about all that though, the Paris Accords and all that stuff is geared towards the United States. Scaling
back on coal plants. Nuclear plants and going wind and solar and all this stuff. None of the other countries have to
mm-hmm. <affirmative>, China currently produces more coal and everything in the atmosphere than we do. Mm-hmm.
<affirmative>, how come they don't have to scale back? Why is it United States that has to, it's only our country that seems
to have to do that.
Speaker 1 00:55:30
Right. <laugh>. And we have to pay
Speaker 2 00:55:32
For it and pay for other country. Like how does this make any sense in,
Speaker 1 00:55:36
Because we have all we, it's 'cause we have all the money. We're not in debt to anybody. We're not, you know, that's
<laugh>. It is
Speaker 2 00:55:41
Goofy. It is just mind blowing sometimes. Anyway, that's my rant about that. I read that about New York. I'm like, oh, okay.
No ketchup packets. No silverware. No napkins. Unless I ask.
Speaker 1 00:55:54
Right. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:55:55
Like, I, I kinda agree with you. They should at least offer. Yeah. Like you said, do you want ketchup? Oh no, I don't. Then just
leave it. Yep. They shouldn't just throw it all in there, but
Speaker 1 00:56:03
Yeah. At least have that
Speaker 2 00:56:04
Except for napkins. They should throw napkins in there automatically. Yeah. Everybody needs napkins. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 00:56:09
Yeah, because it's, and a napkin is, is such a small amount of paper and such a small amount of waste that, that probably
biodegrades quicker than the wrapper that the burger's coming in. <laugh>. Like it's, I don't know, especially some of the
napkins that you get from some restaurants For sure. So, well, I've reached the end of my moose head.
Speaker 2 00:56:29
Yeah. I'm about, just
Speaker 1 00:56:30
About there. There we go. Yep. Any, uh, further thoughts on the, uh, on the afternoon, the evening now I suppose.
Speaker 2 00:56:37
No, I'm about ready to crack another beer though once this one's gone. There we
Speaker 1 00:56:41
Go. <laugh>. I think that might put a wrap then on, uh, that's episode one then of, uh, the, uh, two guys in a beer podcast
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Speaker 2 00:57:00
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Speaker 1 00:57:07
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Speaker 2 00:57:09
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Speaker 2 00:57:10
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Speaker 1 00:57:14
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Speaker 2 00:57:14
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Speaker 1 00:57:20
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Speaker 2 00:57:30
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Speaker 1 00:57:32
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Speaker 2 00:57:45
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Speaker 1 00:57:51
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Speaker 2 00:57:52
The more numbers we get, the better the algorithms become on social media to push it a little more.
Speaker 1 00:57:57
So yeah, if, if you're going running, you know, like, you know, go ahead and put the podcast on for a little bit before you
change to the next one, then we get at least get the click. Right. At least
Speaker 2 00:58:04
A three second play. Exactly. Because that is a stat, a three second play. Just give
Speaker 1 00:58:08
It, just give us that, you know, put it on in the background when you're doing dishes or doing laundry or something and
mowing the lawn, you know, whatever. It's, the lawnmower won't even be able to hear us. It's so that's probably better
anyway. <laugh>. Right?
Speaker 2 00:58:18
<laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:58:20
So, all right. Yeah. So for uh, Sean Field, I'm Andy Stroman. Until next time.
Speaker 2 00:58:25
Yeah. Thanks for listening to everybody and God bless y'all.